17th Sutton Coldfield All Saints Sea Scout Group
Charity 518651
Overview
Summary
The available evidence suggests that 17th Sutton Coldfield All Saints Sea Scout Group is a youth-focused, service-delivering organisation using a broad Scout-style mix of education, outdoor or sporting activity, religious connection and environmental or heritage interests. Its role appears to extend beyond a single activity: it may provide a structured setting in which young people participate, learn and contribute within a community-facing organisation. However, the evidence does not show its scale, specific programmes, local partnerships or how these purposes are balanced in practice.
Operational geography
Evidence and reasoning
Supporting evidence
Sutton Mere Green
Confidence: high
The group is listed by both the national Scouts directory and its host church centre as running its Squirrels, Beavers, Cubs and Scouts sections at All Saints Church/Scout HQ on Belwell Lane or All Saints Drive, Four Oaks (B74 4TR/B74 4AG). These premises are in the Sutton Mere Green ward area.
- Scouts — 17th Sutton Coldfield (All Saints) 209th Birmingham
Lists current weekly Squirrels, Beavers, Cubs and Scouts provision at All Saints Sea Scout Group or All Saints Church Community Centre, Belwell Lane/All Saints Drive, Four Oaks. - All Saints' Church Centre — All Saints’ Sea Scouts
States that the group's sections meet at the Scout HQ at the top of All Saints' Drive, and gives the church-centre address as 64 Belwell Lane, Four Oaks, B74 4TR. - Birmingham City Council — Sutton Mere Green ward map and Belwell Lane planning records
The council's ward mapping identifies Sutton Mere Green as the relevant ward, and council planning records for nearby Belwell Lane addresses identify their ward as Sutton Mere Green.
Remaining uncertainties
- The Charity Commission records the charity's formal contact address as 78 Park View Road, B74 4PS, but this should not be treated as an operational site: the current Scouts and church-centre listings instead identify All Saints premises on Belwell Lane/All Saints Drive as the regular delivery location.
- The Charity Commission's broad 'Throughout England and Wales' field is not supported by the available operational evidence. It may describe the charity's formal area of benefit or the wider Scouts framework rather than where this local group routinely delivers services.
- The group undertakes activities including swimming, sailing, canoeing and camping, but the available evidence does not identify the locations currently used for these activities. No additional Birmingham wards can therefore be evidenced.
- The group is affiliated with Sutton Coldfield East District Scouts and uses All Saints Church Centre premises, but the available evidence does not show that these relationships create regular service delivery outside the All Saints/Four Oaks locality.
Additional evidence needed
- A current group programme, annual report or official activity calendar identifying the venues used for sailing, canoeing, swimming, camps and other off-site activities.
- Confirmation from the group of whether All Saints Church/Scout HQ is its only regular meeting site and whether it owns, leases or merely uses those premises.
- Evidence of any recurring delivery arrangements with schools, community venues, water-sports sites or partners beyond the All Saints/Four Oaks base.
Areas of work
- Amateur Sport
- Education/training
- Environment/conservation/heritage
- Religious Activities
Who they help
- Children/young People
- The General Public/mankind
How they help
- Provides Services
Discoveries involving this organisation
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Observations
A broad developmental model rather than a single-purpose service
The combination of education/training, amateur sport, religious activities and environment/conservation/heritage suggests the group may use multiple forms of participation to support young people's development, rather than operating as a specialist provider.
Why it matters
This frames the organisation as a potential connector between learning, recreation, values and place-based activity. Its contribution may therefore be broader than any one listed charitable purpose.
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“What the charity does: Education/training, Religious Activities, Amateur Sport, Environment/conservation/heritage.”
Source:Charity Commission“Who the charity helps: Children/young People, The General Public/mankind.”
Source:Charity Commission
Young people are the core constituency, with a wider public-facing remit
Children and young people appear to be the principal intended beneficiaries, while the inclusion of the general public may indicate that some activities, outcomes or assets are intended to have wider community value.
Why it matters
This raises a useful question about whether the group is primarily a membership-based youth organisation or also an active community resource, which would affect its potential civic relationships.
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“Who the charity helps: Children/young People, The General Public/mankind.”
Source:Charity Commission“How the charity helps: Provides Services.”
Source:Charity Commission
Potentially place-connected through environmental and heritage activity
Its environmental, conservation or heritage purpose may indicate an orientation toward outdoor places, stewardship or local identity alongside youth provision.
Why it matters
If active in these areas, the group could be a useful partner for organisations concerned with environmental learning, volunteering or local heritage. This remains a possibility rather than an established relationship.
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“What the charity does: Environment/conservation/heritage.”
Source:Charity Commission
- Which services and activities the group actually delivers, and how frequently.
- Whether religious, environmental and heritage purposes are active programmes or broad organisational affiliations.
- Its membership, volunteer base, facilities, geographic reach and local partnerships.
Remaining uncertainties
- A current programme or annual report showing activities, participation and outcomes.
- Information on partnerships, volunteer roles, facilities and community use.
- Evidence of environmental, heritage or faith-linked projects and their beneficiaries.